17:36, 23 February 2006 hydrogenated oils seed

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essentialfatty acids / phospholipids, plump butt , enderlein, salmon, george mateljan, plump jack squaw valley , canola oil, zinc, plump ladies , acetate, fish foundation, hemorrhoids, seed, plump mom , Ingesting a 4:1 food source will never, by itself, bring someone back into the optimal range however, hydrogenated oils as you point out, they will indeed improve, and realistically, when choosing nuts at the supermarket, walnuts would be better than most others. However one cannot eat walnuts as omega-3 therapy and expect to achieve the optimal n6:n3 ratio (as is often believed)Istvan 21:54, 23 February 2006 (UTC) I'm still looking for pointers to original hydrogenated oils research showing that the problem is the ratio between ω-3 and ω-6, rather than just a shortage of ω-3. I've seen the hydrogenated oils claim that the ratio is the problem in some reasonably reputable sources, such as Medline. But they don't provide a cite for their claim. On the other hand, I've seen cites like this, saying that ω-3 is cardioprotective irrespective of ω-6 status. Further, what's called an excess of ω-6 seems to me to just be an excess of arachadoic acid. If somebody's got some cites showing that dietary lineolate or GLA from vegetable sources (that is, arachadonic acid free sources) are inflammatory, then please post them.
17:36, 23 February 2006 (UTC) Sounds good, but one seed thing still eludes seed me. The typical western diet is often stated to have an n6:n3 ratio of 10:1 to even 30:1, so by adding walnuts with a ratio of 5:1 or 4:1, the ratio in the diet should be improved. For instance, a typical westerner has seed during one day eaten 10000mg of n6, and only 500mg of n3, hence having a ratio of 20:1. The westerner then eats 20 grams of walnuts, hence adding approximately 8000mg of n6 and 2000 mg of n3, making the total during the day 18000mg n6 and 2500mg n3, hence having a ratio of approximately 7:1. It does seem like an improvement to me. ---Marcus- 20:58, 23 February 2006 (UTC) I see your point - perhaps "significantly improve" is better terminology for the section.
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